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Post by repole on Nov 27, 2006 22:58:26 GMT -5
LOL @ Repole overvalueing all those Celtics with A or B potential. Sorry if I think 20-23 year olds are yet to hit their prime. Tell me who in there should have C potential?
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Post by ducky on Nov 27, 2006 23:08:18 GMT -5
Ryan Gomes - B- C C B- B B could have C C+ C+ B+ C+ D+ A should have B Big Al - B D D C+ B- A should have B Perkins C D F+ B B B could have C
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Post by nybombers3 on Nov 27, 2006 23:09:52 GMT -5
Al is the only dude that I think can have C potential. The rest can have B. The main thing would be, high or low B.
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Post by repole on Nov 28, 2006 15:11:45 GMT -5
I agree, Perk and Gomes are low B/high C potential types. Neither will improve drastically, but to expect them to not improve at all, or have any chance of improving at all, is foolish in my opinion.
Say what you want about Al, but he's looked very good this season. He missed time due to an appendectomy (not related at all to being injury prone), and I think it's pretty clear he's still got loads of potential. Maniac can choose to bust him for all I care, but his scouted potential should be in the lower A range simply because it's expected that he'll continue to develop. He's still the Celts most valuable prospect, though Gerald is now giving him a run for his money.
Telfair can be high B/low A. He's made some drastic improvements each year in the league though, and I think it's clear he has the potential to be a semi-star. There's a reason the #7 pick was traded for him, he's expected to be more than just a solid player.
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Post by Infamousdane on Nov 28, 2006 15:39:35 GMT -5
I agree, Perk and Gomes are low B/high C potential types. Neither will improve drastically, but to expect them to not improve at all, or have any chance of improving at all, is foolish in my opinion. Say what you want about Al, but he's looked very good this season. He missed time due to an appendectomy (not related at all to being injury prone), and I think it's pretty clear he's still got loads of potential. Maniac can choose to bust him for all I care, but his scouted potential should be in the lower A range simply because it's expected that he'll continue to develop. He's still the Celts most valuable prospect, though Gerald is now giving him a run for his money. Telfair can be high B/low A. He's made some drastic improvements each year in the league though, and I think it's clear he has the potential to be a semi-star. There's a reason the #7 pick was traded for him, he's expected to be more than just a solid player. I agree. I still think Al Can be a very good player as well. Look he is shooting 52%, which means if he STAYS healthy then he could easily turn into a B+ D+ D- B- A- C type player. But its highly unlikely that AL develops into a top 10 PF in his prime only because he is injured so much.
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Post by repole on Nov 28, 2006 23:05:32 GMT -5
I think it's way too earl to call him injury prone. The time he missed last year was because of a freak ankle sprain, which was due to landing akwardly and not having his ankles taped. It was a big deal for a while that Al hated to tape his ankles, but after the injury last year he's since changed his mind. The time he's missed this year is not at all his fault. Can't prevent an appendix from getting infected, some people are just lucky enough to never have that happen, or have it happen during childhood.
As for where I project him....I don't think he's THAT good of a rebounded, A- would be too high for him in his prime. B+ MAX, and even that, too high. B+ D+ D B- B C prime Jefferson to me, would be typical case.
I'd project the Celts youngins in their prime as follows: Gerald - A+ A+ A+ A+ A+ A....or maybe something like B- A- C B+ C (Think Shard Lewis with a bit more flair) Al - B+ D+ D B- B C (Boozer lite) Perk - C D F+ B+ B C Telfair - C+ B- A- B- D+ C Rondo - C+ C- B+ A- C C (I don't know how to guage him honestly. I know he's a very good playmaker, very fast, and a potential lock down quality defender (at the very least, a ball hawk), on the other hand he may be turnover prone, and who knows if he ever develops a jump shot....) West - C B+ B- B+ C C Allen - B- C D A-/A C C D - If he ever regains his rookie form, he'd be an A quality defender. But I think the knee injury took a lot out of him defensivly, and I'm not so sure he'll ever be a lockdown defender like he looked to be rookie year.
Call me a homer, but statistically thats the quality of players they project to be. Some guys may completely bust, other guys may exceed their expected development.
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Post by Infamousdane on Nov 28, 2006 23:16:14 GMT -5
I think it's way too earl to call him injury prone. The time he missed last year was because of a freak ankle sprain, which was due to landing akwardly and not having his ankles taped. It was a big deal for a while that Al hated to tape his ankles, but after the injury last year he's since changed his mind. The time he's missed this year is not at all his fault. Can't prevent an appendix from getting infected, some people are just lucky enough to never have that happen, or have it happen during childhood. As for where I project him....I don't think he's THAT good of a rebounded, A- would be too high for him in his prime. B+ MAX, and even that, too high. B+ D+ D B- B C prime Jefferson to me, would be typical case. I'd project the Celts youngins in their prime as follows: Gerald - A+ A+ A+ A+ A+ A....or maybe something like B- A- C B+ C (Think Shard Lewis with a bit more flair) Al - B+ D+ D B- B C (Boozer lite) Perk - C D F+ B+ B C Telfair - C+ B- A- B- D+ C Rondo - C+ C- B+ A- C C (I don't know how to guage him honestly. I know he's a very good playmaker, very fast, and a potential lock down quality defender (at the very least, a ball hawk), on the other hand he may be turnover prone, and who knows if he ever develops a jump shot....) West - C B+ B- B+ C C Allen - B- C D A-/A C C D - If he ever regains his rookie form, he'd be an A quality defender. But I think the knee injury took a lot out of him defensivly, and I'm not so sure he'll ever be a lockdown defender like he looked to be rookie year. Call me a homer, but statistically thats the quality of players they project to be. Some guys may completely bust, other guys may exceed their expected development. Al is one of the best PF rebounders per mintues, but I gues thats due to his strength. He can still have B rebounding and still be a top 10-15 rebounder because of his strength
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Post by kg on Nov 28, 2006 23:46:22 GMT -5
Can we just see the preliminary rosters?
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Post by WillC on Nov 29, 2006 6:19:52 GMT -5
Yeah are we anywhere near starting?
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Post by wftiger19 on Nov 30, 2006 0:19:18 GMT -5
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh the Warriors...I want make specific requests until the ratings come out but I will make a few comments.
Baron Davis is currently one of the best PGs in the league. He's putting up 21 ppg and also dishing out 8 apg. His defense has been better this year as well. He's averaging 2 steals per game.
Monta Ellis is gonna be a star. He is a scoring machine already. Enough has been said about this kid in the thread already. He really should be one of the better young players in the league ratings-wise.
Andris Biedrens is scary. He's still very young and he's already a shotblocking machine averaging 3 bpg. He is also putting up a double double in points and rebounds. Nothing more needs to be said. He's another young star who should continue to improve.
Mickael Pietrus is looking great this year. His defense is stellar and he is showing that he can score too. Another young phenom.
Jason Richardson...Still a scoring machine. Ratings should still be very good this year even though his numbers are down a bit.
Dunleavy. Great shooter, good scorer etc.
Murphy and Diogu cannot be forgotten about either
DAMN THIS TEAM IS GOOD!!!
Also, this is the team I had in legends right from the start so it will be cool to have the same team again. Unfortunately, I no longer have Lacey, Manalang, Amare, Harris, and Marvin but oh well.
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Post by WillC on Nov 30, 2006 5:26:34 GMT -5
I should point out that JRich should be made a lot worse in this new league. I made him far too good in the old NBL.
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Post by Scott on Nov 30, 2006 9:19:49 GMT -5
LOL, I love the bias of the Warriors fans in this league!
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Post by Spencer on Nov 30, 2006 10:25:39 GMT -5
Why would Richardson be worse? He put up 23 ppg last year, and is still recovering from a knee injury this year. I think his ratings in this league were very fair.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 30, 2006 10:27:19 GMT -5
LOL, I love the bias of the Warriors fans in this league! I dont see how you cant watch Monta or Biedrins and be throughly impressed. They are both already very good players who are 21 and 20 respectively.
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Post by WillC on Nov 30, 2006 11:53:47 GMT -5
Wasn't Richardson averaging about 27ppg in the NBL?
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