Post by wftiger19 on Dec 1, 2006 0:23:57 GMT -5
sdogbbs said:
wftiger19 said:
499 Andris Biedrins C 20 6'11'' 245 C+ D+ D B B- ABiedrins has already showed that he is one of the best rebounders/defenders in this league. He's averaging 11 rpg and 3 bpg. He should be better than "B B-" in those two categories.
492 Adonal Foyle C 31 6'10'' 270 C D D- B B- C
Fine. Anyone can have him for free.
84 Patrick O'Bryant C 20 7'0'' 260 C+ D+ D C+ C+ A
Fine.
490 Troy Murphy PF 26 6'11'' 245 B- B C- C+ B+ C
I would ask for B- defense but I would get flamed for it.
82 Ike Diogu PF 22 6'8'' 255 B C D C+ B- B
I would ask for a B in rebounding because he's averaging 12 rpg per 40 but I would be yelled at.
282 Zarko Cabarkapa PF 24 6'11'' 235 C+ C+ D+ C+ C B
Fine.
488 Mickael Pietrus SF 24 6'6'' 215 B- C+ C- B+ C B
He's already one of the best perimeter defenders in the game. I guess B+ is fair. I think he's averaging something like 6 rpg so he should have a C+ rebounding instead of C.
495 Mike Dunleavy SF 27 6'9'' 230 C+ B+ C+ C+ C B
Fine.
455 Matt Barnes SF 26 6'7'' 235 C+ C+ C- B C+ C
Fine.
487 Jason Richardson SG 25 6'6'' 225 A- B C B C C
Fine.
83 Monta Ellis SG 20 6'3'' 177 B C+ C+ B- C- A
I am going to be totally honest. I have seen 2 Warriors games this season. Spencer, you have probably seen a lot more. But just based on what Monta is doing so far this season, doesn't he deserve better ratings than this? I guess with "B C+" he could maybe possibly get 18 ppg but I would up the outside shot to B- or inside to B+...not both though . Handles should be better than a C+. Already putting up 4.4 apg on a team with BD as PG. Based on the numbers, from what I've read, and the two games I have seen, Monta should have better defense as well.
338 Baron Davis PG 27 6'3'' 223 B C+ A- A- C- C
Should be better than B C+ scoring. He's putting up 21 ppg this season and B C+ is not good enough. He has been an explosive scorer this year. You've seen more Warriors games than I have though.
78 Anthony Roberson PG 23 6'2'' 180 C A- C C D B
Fine.
633 Keith McLeod PG 27 6'2'' 190 C C+ C+ B D+ C
Fine.
All that being said, if anyone has any complaints or objections to anything I said, please feel free to let me know. Being specific would help. Thanks Will and Spencer for making these rosters happen.
I agree with you in your arguments, but I am a little biased. Ellis/Andris grades are somehat based on there potential. Baron I changed to B C+ instead of B- B-. Murphy cant defend. Ike isnt a great rebounder. Pietrus is a good defender, but I doubt most guys in the league would be okay with him being an A-.
So what are you going to change? I definitely think Monta and Andris are going to get much better but their ratings right now simply do not justify what they are doing this season. When they are in their prime, they should be putting up much better numbers than now, when they are both extremely young. And Pietrus IS a good defender...one of the better defenders in the league. Doesn't that warrant an A-? My three main beefs are with Baron, Monta, and Andris though. Baron is simply a better scorer than B C+. He's putting up 21 ppg and has put up numbers close to that his whole career. Some guys in this league who aren't doing as well as him have better scoring ratings. His scoring really needs to be better. As for Monta and Andris, I feel like I've stated my case. Their ratings simply do not show what they are doing this year and since you have seen them so much, you should know that. I really think they both need significant rating upgrades even if they are indeed both very young.